Jared Crozier: Preseason game day - Toronto @ Ottawa - eyes on C & C - Colin and Chabot

Good preview- do you know if this is going to be broadcast anywhere tonight?

Sportsnet. Sweet

Sportsnet. Sweet
- Jordo

Glad I could help answer your question

Apparently Sieloff was causing trouble again last night in the Sens interscrimmage?

Heard he broke stones stick and tried to fight him.

What a cement head.

Apparently Sieloff was causing trouble again last night in the Sens interscrimmage?

Heard he broke stones stick and tried to fight him.

What a cement head.
- david22

Why's that idiot even at camp??

I'm not really sure what the point is of having Vandevelde on a PTO... they're down Brassard and MacArthur up front, not Pyatt and Thompson. But it follows a clear pattern of Boucher's apparent preference for good-skating, hard-working, and more experienced players on his checking lines. As per usual, the scoring lines will essentially be left to figure themselves out.

I could see the following as the forward lineup on opening night:

Hoffman-Turris-Ryan
Smith-Pageau-Stone
Dzingel-White-Burrows
Pyatt-Thompson-Whoever

As for the defence, I'm not sure how I feel about Chabot being partnered with Phaneuf... unless that's the intended pairing for the year. If that's the case, it opens up some rather unexpected possibility, including Ceci being a potential new partner for Karlsson.

I'm pretty sure if you watch the video, Stone broke his stick on Seiloff, trying to slash him. Regardless, it looked VERY insignificant to me.

I'm not really sure what the point is of having Vandevelde on a PTO... they're down Brassard and MacArthur up front, not Pyatt and Thompson. But it follows a clear pattern of Boucher's apparent preference for good-skating, hard-working, and more experienced players on his checking lines. As per usual, the scoring lines will essentially be left to figure themselves out.

I could see the following as the forward lineup on opening night:

Hoffman-Turris-Ryan
Smith-Pageau-Stone
Dzingel-White-Burrows
Pyatt-Thompson-Whoever

As for the defence, I'm not sure how I feel about Chabot being partnered with Phaneuf... unless that's the intended pairing for the year. If that's the case, it opens up some rather unexpected possibility, including Ceci being a potential new partner for Karlsson.
- khawk

Doubtful they pair Ceci with Karlsson, both right handed shots. The only other RH shot on the team is Wideman, who may or may not get a spot this year given all of the D-men they have.

They said this morning they were wanting to play Chabot on the right, which is his off-side, and that's why they're playing him with Phaneuf.

I'm thinking:

Karlsson - Claesson
Phaneuf - Chabot
Oduya- Ceci
Wideman - Boro

Doubtful they pair Ceci with Karlsson, both right handed shots.
- Jordo

In general, I would agree... however it's apparently not an issue that Chabot and Phaneuf are both LH shots. If the RH/LH balance was so important, you'd think they'd make sure they respected that in planning out the development of their best prospect. Personally, I get the sense with both Karlsson and Chabot they're thinking more about up/down ice effectiveness than side-to-side.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not sure that Karlsson-Ceci is the most likely option... but it's certainly a bit of an unexpected possibility that could result from them matching Chabot with Phaneuf. Despite the uproar over the Methot situation, people seem to forget that Ceci actually played the 2nd most minutes of anyone on the team last year... including more than 3min/gp of ice time than Methot. Plus, this is the 2nd year of his bridge contract, and I can see the team wanting to keep testing him before making a long-term contract offer.

It just seems to me that Ceci is likely going to be a bigger part of this year's team than some people are suggesting.

Doubtful they pair Ceci with Karlsson, both right handed shots. The only other RH shot on the team is Wideman, who may or may not get a spot this year given all of the D-men they have.

They said this morning they were wanting to play Chabot on the right, which is his off-side, and that's why they're playing him with Phaneuf.

I'm thinking:

Karlsson - Claesson
Phaneuf - Chabot
Oduya- Ceci
Wideman - Boro
- Jordo

I think you have a good hunch. I would think for the start of the season it will look like:

1st pairing : Oduya- Ceci
2nd pairing: Phaneuf - Chabot
3rd pairing: Wideman(*Boro)- Cleasson

Cleasson looks great with Karlsson, just like pretty much any other defence in the league because hes the best in the league... so its a stretch to suggest Cleasson is a top 4 material without playing alongside Karlsson. He has quite a lot more to prove than Ceci. And, Oduya has played top 4 minutes for the larger part of his career. He should be albe to momentarily shoulder the 1st pairing workload early in the year with Ceci who has proven to be quite steady and reliable. Because of Cleasson's handside, I would think he would play on the 3rd pairing with Wideman, who is the only other puck moving defence that shoots right (left D).

If all goes well when Karlsson returns and if Cleasson has impressed in every regards in the preseason and early season, you may see him slotted with Karlson. If Chabot makes the team, I think the lineup would look more like this early on in the season:


1st pairing : Karlsson- Oduya
2nd pairing: Phaneuf - Ceci
3rd pairing: Boroweiki (*Wideman)- Chabot/Cleasson


If Chabot makes the team, there isn't much room for Cleasson, unless Oduya is given a much smaller role. I would think to shelter Chabot from a full season, having him compete with Cleasson would be beneficial for the team. Chabot looks very very good, but I don't think he should be rushed in top 4 minutes right away. He needs to get used to NHL speed and play some NHL minutes before playing against top offensive players. Given Chabot is a puck moving D, it would appear counter intuitive to play him with Wideman, plus he will need protection in his first year... that's why I think he would play with Boroweiki who is most likely going to play given he is a coach favorite.

In general, I would agree... however it's apparently not an issue that Chabot and Phaneuf are both LH shots. If the RH/LH balance was so important, you'd think they'd make sure they respected that in planning out the development of their best prospect. Personally, I get the sense with both Karlsson and Chabot they're thinking more about up/down ice effectiveness than side-to-side.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not sure that Karlsson-Ceci is the most likely option... but it's certainly a bit of an unexpected possibility that could result from them matching Chabot with Phaneuf. Despite the uproar over the Methot situation, people seem to forget that Ceci actually played the 2nd most minutes of anyone on the team last year... including more than 3min/gp of ice time than Methot. Plus, this is the 2nd year of his bridge contract, and I can see the team wanting to keep testing him before making a long-term contract offer.

It just seems to me that Ceci is likely going to be a bigger part of this year's team than some people are suggesting.
- khawk

Ceci is the most underrated player on the team, but I like him slotted in the second pairing because of his physicality. I think they will keep him and Phaneuf together when karlsson comes back, but until then I think he will be slotted with Oduya to balance out the experience and veterans on the top 2 pairings.

I think ceci will and should play top 2 minutes with Oduya until karlsson comes back to full form. Chabot will need protection so either he plays momentarily on 2nd pairing with Phaneuf or gets dropped to 3rd pairing with BoroCop.

omg.

you guys better hope karlsoon is back quickly.

those pairings without him are far and away the worst in the nhl.

Now Tums! 😕.....have you seen ours lately? 😨...😆

Now Tums! 😕.....have you seen ours lately? 😨...😆
- MR.Hunter

i'd say we're somewhere between 18-25 in d-corps. still need to improve.

but without carlsson, the sens d-group is dead last.

omg.

you guys better hope karlsoon is back quickly.

those pairings without him are far and away the worst in the nhl.
- Tumbleweed

In general, I would agree... however it's apparently not an issue that Chabot and Phaneuf are both LH shots. If the RH/LH balance was so important, you'd think they'd make sure they respected that in planning out the development of their best prospect. Personally, I get the sense with both Karlsson and Chabot they're thinking more about up/down ice effectiveness than side-to-side.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not sure that Karlsson-Ceci is the most likely option... but it's certainly a bit of an unexpected possibility that could result from them matching Chabot with Phaneuf. Despite the uproar over the Methot situation, people seem to forget that Ceci actually played the 2nd most minutes of anyone on the team last year... including more than 3min/gp of ice time than Methot. Plus, this is the 2nd year of his bridge contract, and I can see the team wanting to keep testing him before making a long-term contract offer.

It just seems to me that Ceci is likely going to be a bigger part of this year's team than some people are suggesting.
- khawk

It's not a problem pairing Chabot with Phaneuf but in Boucher's system it would be a problem pairing Karlsson with Ceci. In Boucher's system the right D man is the puck mover and the left D is the guy who can step up in the neutral zone and be a physical player. Playing Chabot on the right side is actually putting him in a position where he can suceed, where as Ceci playing on the left side with Karlsson would be putting Ceci in a position he is not suited to play.

Chabot looked decent last night.